Not allow a device to be used when presence is away


#1

1) Give a description of the problem
I am trying to prevent my garage doors from opening when my wife and I are not home

2) What is the expected behavior?
I have been able to use presence to send a push if the door is opened after we leave, but haven’t had luck preventing the doors from opening.

3) What is happening/not happening?
Couldn’t figure out the logic

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#2

This honestly is a bit dangerous, and without knowing your situation I would just say that god forbid you are home, open the door stand near it without blocking the electric eye (assuming its there) and your phone battery dies or the presensce sensor freaks out moving you away (happens)… you are going to have a VERY bad day when it comes down on you.

Also you wont be able to STOP it from happening (AFAIK) the best you will be able to do is have it immediately start to close once it opens

If GarageDoor Changes to OPENING
AND
(Presence1 or Presence 2 is NOT PRESENT)
Then
Garage Door Close
End If

Again - not a great idea in general – reason why the Zwave door openers have so many safety conditions built into them (Lights, Beeping, only send 1 cmd every 30s, etc)


#3

Maybe you are right, then do you think this piston will work to warn us? The delay is important do to the Geographic circle.


#4

I dont think you need the delay … If I think this through I get in the car and start driving - the pres sensor will say I am away - and without the delay it will imeediately notify me (which is what I would want…)

Another way you can do this is
if All of Presence Sensors STAYS AWAY FROM PRESENT for 3 Minutes
and
ALL Doors are OPEN

If I am on the ball that will also help the fluctuation and weird behaviors of the Presnece sensors from time to time…


#5

I have seen others talk about installing smart plugs. Turn the smart plug off when away and therefore the door can not be opened.


#6

OK the reason for the delay is that my Geo fence overlaps in a place where when I exit my development and make a right I have to jug-handle around crossing the same geo fence. Here in New Jersey we have Jug-Handles, which are turns only from the right. So timer is necessary. My Piston will it work?

Yes but the problem is I built my own garage door openers using a Inovelli Dual Channel smart plug and two relays. It works perfectly every time including using Alexa. So if I have a plug in line and it turns off, I will be nagged with Offline alerts for the Inovelli.


#7

Yeah – should work :slight_smile:
And I work in NJ (Live in NEPA) so understand the jug handle conundrum all too well :frowning:


#8

Yea this jug-handle plays tricks with my presence, first I am away, then when I cross in front of my development, I am back then away again in a few hundred feet. That is why I thought the dealy would help.