Rises above vs remains above


#1

Does anyone know what the is the difference between the triggers “rises above” and “remains above”? Both of these are triggers. These two are obviously different from the “stays greater than” which involves a “in the last” time parameter, but what is not clear to me is how rises and remains differ from each other.


#2

Rises above.
When the temp rises above 25 C, do something.
Remains above.
When temp remains above 25 C for 5 minutes, do something.


#3

Thank you for replying. Is it always 5 minutes?


#4

It’s configurable when you select that as the condition/trigger.


#5

If I am not wrong the trigger where the delay is configurable is the “stays greater than” trigger. I am trying to find the difference between “rises above” and “remains above”. Neither of these have a configurable delay as far as I can see.


#6

IT’s not a delay, it’s just how long it has to stay above. Obviously the “rises” above won’t have the option…because its happens as soon as it is above. LOL
Did you actually try selecting the “stays above”? If you’d actually given it a try, you would have seen where you put the timeframe in. I’ve outlined it in red.


#7

I understand how "stays greater than” works.
I am trying to find the difference between “rises above” vs “remains above”. :grinning:


#8

It doesn’t look like

remains above

was ever completed. It’s missing the time setting.


#9

Sorry to bump an old thread but I’ve been taking a hard look at these triggers and I think I see the difference. “Stays” sets a timer when the trigger occurs and if nothing changes between that moment and when the timer goes off it’s True. “Remains” requires and initial trigger and is then evaluated when the next trigger from the same device occurs, obviously evaluating to True if nothing changed between the two events. That’s why “Remains” doesn’t have a time setting, I think.

It seems to me that “Remains” can be problematic, since it’s possible that the device (say, a motion sensor), may take a random amount of time to report the next event, and you’d get inconsistent behavior as a result. FWIW.