Hubitat Elevation


#24

Good for you! Now go be productive lol


#25

Been there done that… just got home from work lol (17:45 here in gloomy U.K.) :uk:


#26

I forget about the time diff… still working on my morning coffee.

Do you still have any devices on ST at your current home?


#27

The house I live in (rented) is still a dumb house, bar a few smart devices I’m bench testing (in the bedroom lol).

My other house with tennants in is still on ST and will remain that way, I have no intention of breaking / reinventing the wheel on that setup.


#28

And I’m still not 100% sold on HE, it is lacking a good UI / mobile app, which right now is a deal breaker for me!


#29

My home setup is somewhat smart but not fully automated. ST going down is an inconvenience but not OHMYGOD what are going to do kind of situation. Local operation is cool but not enough for me to start unpairing my devices and then moving it over, BUT it would be a whole different story if my ST hub craps out lol. No choice there… version 1 kickstarter hub still going!


#30

I’d save that one. There was someone on this or the ST board wanting to created a haunted house, lol.


#31

I replied to him on ST… all he needs to do is send a toggle command to every light in the house every 3 seconds and his house will go crazy :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Mesh network popcorn effect will make sure everything is random haha


#32

I’m thinking about buying one of these to play around. I just want to make sure I understand webcore with Hubitat. All pistons run locally? webcore interface to create the pistons is the only part that’s not local?


#34

Correct, you still need the web UI to create and edit pistons, but instead of saving pistons into the ST cloud, they are saved directly onto the Hubitat hub and run 100% local.

They’ve said the mobile app wont have a tile interface i.e. no device control as we know it… so the app sounds like it will be fairly usless IMHO.

I’m running the old school SmartTiles as I was lucky enough to still have the source code, but anyone who doesn’t have the code can’t do that (licence prevents it being shared).

Maybe @CosmicPuppy would consider helping people privately under condition of not sharing publicly? I currently have 5.3.3 but would love to upgrade to 5.7 :frowning: (@CosmicPuppy I would pay for 5.7 if it works on Hubitat :wink: )


#36

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#37

As noted in the post immediately prior to this one, it is essentially impossible to prevent the distribution of source code, despite copyright and clearly expressed licensing restrictions.

If we distributed SmartTiles™ v5.7 in source code from for use on Hubitat, we would have a very difficult time of ensuring it wasn’t illegally used for SmartThings as well.


Folks interested in ActionTiles™ for Hubitat should view and follow the relevant Topic on the ActionTiles feedback Forum: https://support.actiontiles.com/communities/12/topics/3345-support-for-hubitat#comment-14599


#38

You need to respect the licence as Terry notes above… I don’t mind stealing software from greasy corporations but not small businesses.

I have 5.3.3 anyway… was hoping to upgrade.

That said, I’ve just discovered the Alexa smart home interface… looks quite nice.


#39

They just look like a mini tile version of their IP interface.

No tile definitions means auto generated tiles based on defined commands in the code, so plain tiles, yey.


#40

Basically this:

Looks like this:


#42

Actually, the SmartTiles repository from Alex625 is just there for legacy users, the source code is not there, just the icons existing users need for their dashboards to function.

Anyone sharing the code itself is in breach of the licence conditions.


#43

what’s your thinking on Hubitat @RobinWinbourne? How much was the final bill to get it to the UK with taxes? I’m thinking of giving it ago mostly for the local ability so my lights will work without being online and seeing as you have webcore working its enticing me more. Has the webcore side been a simple port over?


#44

I paid £26 import duty on top of the price on the hubitat website.

webCoRE was ported by others, link in my first post. It required a few changes but nothing crazy. Main thing with porting to hubitat is changing ‘physicalgraph’ to ‘hubitat’.

The lack of an app will be less of a problem as I add more automation. Also, Alexa integration is very very fast to respond to commands and the Amazon app has a really good interface for controlling the devices manually.

I’m erring on the side of recommending it now, but I’ve always been fairly happy with ST as well so I wont be changing any of my existing setups in homes I rent out to tennants. Likely to be used in new homes I buy though.


#45

So all in about £143 with shipping and at today’s price conversion?

Is there a github repository with working code with all the relevant changes?

found this thread on the community?

I went down the google home route :frowning: don’t think they have integrated that yet?

Im happy with ST but during the outages it was a bit of a pain as I like my smart lights. I plan to still use them and also have some smart switch dimmers. So I want to have them both running together to get the best of both worlds. But i’m guessing you can’t speak from experience of using the hub link apps as your ST setup is at your tennents?

Edit: @RobinWinbourne also looked a homey but not sure that’s quite there yet in regards to a rules engine.


#46

The best ported version of webCoRE that I’ve found is in post 1 above.

No idea about Homey, haven’t looked into it.