Rooms Manager: Smarter Rooms: Personalized home automation with Occupancy

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#243

What would happen if you setup the lights to come on when motion is detected in a TV room for instance. Then you decide to change the scene to something else while you are watching TV. Will this revert back to the lights being what they were when it detects motion?

#244

well you could use the TV being on to set the room to engaged then use different light settings for normal occupied vs engaged so even if there is motion you still get the right scene.

EDIT: the room can also be manually set to engaged state which would have the same effect so long as you create 2 different rules one for occupied and the other for engaged.

#245

there was a display error in the room traffic display. fixed. will push with next release.

#246

The only other SmartApp I have is a tile piston that tells the switch state.

It actually happened again. First screenshot is my configured motion sensor:

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This is the history for the Laundry Room:

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At 5:38 I believe the room turned on the switch. Unless I’m looking at this all wrong.

I actually had the logs running at the time.

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I can’t understand it. I turned the light off at 5:53 from ST app and the Room is turning it right back on.

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Laundry Room is Vacant and no motion.

#247

on the light rule can you please pick the state to be occupied and this should be resolved. without that the lux value dropping is probably triggering it.

#248

Adding the state = occupied, seems to have fixed it for now.

Very strange as I have 3 other rooms defined exactly like the Laundry Room, that does not behave this way.

Thank you though :smile:

#249

do they also have lux setting? if there is a lux setting and no state defined in the rules and any of the rules matches all of the rule conditions, that same thing will happen.

you are welcome.

#250

Yes, my kitchen is setup like the laundry room is, but with a different lux value (same sensor).

My living room is the same. Lux defined with a motion sensor, not state defined. I actually have 2 rules for that light, one that sets the light at 100% from sunrise to 10 p.m. and one from 10 p.m. to sunrise to set the light at 20% (again, no state is defined).

#251

right. but you do have times defined which keeps the rules from matching even when the lux value drops outside of those times. :slight_smile:

#252

Probably a stupid question, but how would I override my 10:00 p.m. rule to set the dimmer at 20%?

Say I want to manually bump it up to 100% for a few minutes, then let the 20% resume?

Here are my settings:

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#253

change room to engaged and then go back to occupied?

#254

I am trying to understand setting the timing of the motion sensors. For instance, the Room was changed to ‘Vacant’ but it took 12 minutes to turn the light off. How do I adjust these settings? I would like the lights to turn off fairly soon after the room changes to ‘Vacant’. And how do I adjust how much time it takes to go from ‘Engaged’ to ‘Vacant’?

#255

when the room changes to vacant the lights should also turn off unless there is a rule that says keep a light on when vacant. for engaged to vacant there is a motion timeout requirement which can be found under the engaged settings in the app.

if you scroll to the bottom of the settings for the room there is a view all settings. if you will please share the view all settings screenshots its easier to tell what may be going on.

#256

Here are my settings for the basement. Although it says “Heavy Traffic” in these settings, I actually have “Light Traffic” selected. Also, with the Lux setting, does it only work if the Lux is the number that I put in that setting? For instance, I wanted some lights to go on only if the Lux was below 50. When I put 50 in the lights didn’t come on because the lux was 47.7.

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#257

thanks for this. could you please scroll up so all the rules are shown and then take the second screenshot?

after creating the rule next time the lux is below 50 and there are switches to turn on they will get turned on. i use the lux feature extensively and it always works that way.

#258

@bangali i pulled from my smartapp/device last night and also seeing “heavy traffic” regardless of the selection except “no auto engaged”. Additionally I get “somethings wrong” whenever I try to load AL settings.

#259

This is all I have set for this room. I run a WebCore piston and have the lights turn off when the room’s occupancy is ‘vacant’. Not sure I understand what you are saying about the lux setting. Are you saying that if I put in a number, it will fire for that number and anything below?

#260

yes mentioned this earlier:

are you on the latest version?

#261

ok. the lux value can only be used in a rule. if there are no rules defined then not sure where you put in the value of 50? that is correct any switches on the rule will be turned on if the lux value is lower than the value entered but only if the rest of the rule conditions also matches.

#262

any errors in the ST logs? i am also trying to reproduce but dont seem to be getting that error for any of my rooms.

EDIT: actually if you update to the latest that error should go away.